Rasputin. Unsung qualities, unsung consequences.
Some perspectives. Perhaps Ras Putin.
Grigori Rasputin, photograph portrait, Yasupov Palace, St. Petersburg, Russia
Background: Rasputin was not a monk, but a member of a mystery sect, called Khlysty. Khlysty was an 18th Century offshoot of the Orthodox Church, but independent and contrary to the church's reliance on its own institutions, rites and tradition-based authority. Khlysty: secretive Gnostic elements. A "heresy" in the early church, see http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/shows/religion/story/heretics.html. Gnosticism is still with us, see http://gnosis.org/gnintro.htm. A more general term for a part of it, the practice of the extraordinary, the paranormal, could be Thaumaturgy: the working of magic, miracles. It is a familiar sect, see http://sputniknews.com/russia/20090529/155121673.html
Roots. Rasputin was a man of Siberia, a peasant, and that status could take many forms, see History of Siberia. Ethnicity in Siberia was varied, given the many indigenous or sent to that area for various reasons, to populate it, or as punishment, exile. How varied was Russia at the time? An 1897 census counts 50 million Russians, 20 million Ukrainians, 8 million Poles, 6 million White Russians, 4-5 million Jewish, 4 million from the Baltics, 3 million from the Caucasus, and up to 2 million Germans. See http://www.rollintl.com/roll/grsettle.htm. The map of the Empire in 1897 counts only religions as Orthodox (no Roman Catholic or Protestant or Jewish listed), Shamanists, Muslims. See 1897 religions-ethnic map.
- Rasputin the healer, the joy-giver. Siberia is also home to the Rhodiola, the golden root, an herb of powers, known to 1st Century Greece through Dioscorides; from aphrodisiac to longevity. Did he keep his own supply, replenishing it upon his return visits. See http://siberiantimes.com/healthandlifestyle/others/features/us-scientists-prove-what-siberian-grannies-have-known-for-generations-about-magical-arctic-herb/; See also Rhodiola at http://www.webmd.com/vitamins-supplements/ingredientmono-883-rhodiola.aspx?activeingredientid=883.
- It looks like it has never been tested seriously. Is that because it is natural, grow your own in cold places, and there is no money in something you can't patent?
Rasputin had many women, however. Or was it all ultimately not quite done? more hype than consummation? Apparently most people thought it all happened as touted. See detailed biography again at http://www.themystica.com/mystica/articles/r/Rasputin.html. Either way, Sect Permission Granted, appararently. The Khlysty sect reference to spiritual marriages, and marriages blessed by a priest as a no-no; and the Khlysty use of Radenyi rites (ecstasy, a kind of speaking in tongues, etc, see site), and all that will take more understanding.
- Non-marriage.What other children might he have had? The corresponding unsung here are all the women anywhere who bear children for men who, for whatever reason, are not on the scene to be fathers afterwards. Go back to resemblances, possibly, back at Pokrovskoye, the LA Times report from 1995, above. There is a Rasputin Museum there. see http://gototyumen.com/things-to-do/rasputin-museum-in-pokrovskoye
- Pokrovskoye Siberia itself: The village was founded in 1769 by Zaporizhian Cossacks, a southern Ukraine military-political-brigand group, later encroached out of business, search Cossacks, and according to Ukrainian Dmitrio Yavornytsky 1855-1940, a/k/a Evornytskiy, see bio.
- Am looking for his 1901 History of the Zorizhzhnian Cossacks Vol I . spelling also Zaporozhian, see Library of Congress.
- Cossack roots of Pokrovskoye: How did Cossacks from Ukraine end up in Siberia? Modern angle on history, Cossack organization and preference for rule by assembly (rada) over autocratic rule, see odd place for a Cossack site is at, at http://www.huffingtonpost.com/nikolas-kozloff/note-to-ukraine-time-to-r_b_6220554.html. Critique of Cossack brutality, its excesses, however.
Click on Visit Page there, and the photo disappears. Is there a resemblance? A search for a daughter, Varvara Rasputina produced this other. Canny, and uncanny.
II. Rasputin's legacy.
We can delve into his beliefs by examining Khlysti and Radenyi, with the idea that rules and limits are for the unawakened, see sites. The entire Holy Russia concept, a chosen-ness above all others, the purity idea, that the people shall toe the line and we will define it, but the State through the leader himself acts above it, and the people shall bask in the reflected glory with dedication to sacrifice, and so on. That would fit.
III. Transmission of a legacy. Finding the father, the grandfather, the individual from whom one stems. Mother is easier. She was there. Father? not so much. What's your name? Who's your daddy?
Idea. There may be clues in naming, as to the father-grandfaather, ancestor, of someone with that name. See Game of Thrones: Snow, perhaps. I understand from out trip to Russia, that it is customary in some places for children born outside the legal sheets to take not the full surname of the father, who is not married to the mother, but to leave off the first syllable.
- If that is so, what is a name that, absent the first syllable, becomes Putin?
- Sure. Rasputin. The Daddy. The Grand-daddy. Speculato, speculatis, speculatat. Speculamus, speculatatis, peculatant.
- The current President of Russia, Mr. Putin, recalls his mother and father, see accounts at https://www.rt.com/news/254445-putin-family-details-wwii/; and http://www.thefiscaltimes.com/2015/03/13/Vladimir-Putin-17-Things-You-Didn-t-Know-About-Russia-s-President.
- But we find little about forbears.
- So, our interest now is in Putin, the DNA, if Rasputin is in his mix, and whether Rasputin is Slavic.
It matters, for example, because of current nationalism, supremacism currents.
Would Mr. Putin embrace his heritage if he learns (or knows) it is not all Slavic, and if that became public knowledge? Pure Slavic roots for Mr.Putin: very important. Current nationalism in Russia today appears to laud Slavs as the true Russians, all others not so much. And, as with supremacists here, there are Slavic suprremacist websites. Here is one: See https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dW6WvZE-RYA.
- Videos online feed into more videos because the algorithm thinks you want it. So, the Slavic video here feeds into the next video, which purports to seek to preserve the Slavic physical characteristics it finds very fine. The presentation is intense, with Bulgarian women's chorus behind and other musical selections, see https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n6F1SqFqIO0. The title is: " example of Slavic type of face! preserve our people!"
The video ends with an overt white supremacist message, with dates when whites will be in a minority. A kind of global alert. Online is full of speculators on the genealogy, but the Ras of Ras Putin to me is the most culturally interesting, if it is so.
V. Even the news is interested. Take Pravda. Please.
Genealogy for Mr. Putin is addressed even by Pravda, a prominent (only?) Russian news source. In 2002, Pravda showed its interest in origins of its people. See The Mysterious Genealogy of Russian President Putin, a 2002 article, at http://www.pravdareport.com/business/finance/05-11-2002/1528-putin-0/
Alternate lineage theory: The article in Pravda suggests, because of certain naming customs, that Mr. Putin may derive from a Prince from the city of Tver, who has facial physical similarities to Mr. Putin, apparently, and there are Putyanins from Tver. See article. The name Putyanin appears there in the mid-19th Century, itself unusual.
- Putin origins at the City of Tver? Tver has a large non-Slavic population of Karellians, or Karelians, Finno-Baltic, see https://www.eki.ee/books/redbook/karelians.shtml
Start there, and go farther in case Putyanin has nothing to do with Putin.
VI. Reality check on who is legitimately "Russian."
Are all other components of the population scrum really to be disregarded? There is much to conflict with Slavic monopoly on credit, with population origins long rooted also in old Germanic, Svear and Goths, as well as old Slavs, and Scandinavian Rurikid Dynasty lasting until 1598, and Finno-Ugrics, and Tatars, and Cumans and all who intermarried along the line.
If you find out the descendants of Rasputin, tell Pravda, will you? Thanks. Not long ago, I understand there was a granddaughter, now elderly, in Greece. Status? Who else? He had skills in healing, and was charismatic. Did those traits continue in positive ways?
FN 1. Rasputin: The name
- The name is not a surname, according to the cesarlizano.name site, Siberian Thaumaturgy. It derives from a childhood nickname for the man we know as Rasputin anad who adopted that name as his own. The nickname was "Raspitnik" or little rogue, little evildoer, for the child's ability to foretell, perhaps -- a childhood 'thaumaturgic' behavior. But what was his father's surname? If Rasputin adopted a childhood nickname, what was his birth name?
- Cesarlizano.name (Siberian Thaumaturgy) is not a research site, but a creative play, a dramatic rendering of late events as though Rasputin himself were speaking a part. It fits with the gnostic story-telling of the sect he espoused. See A Guide to Russian Sects and Fringe Beliefs, at http://sputniknews.com/russia/20090529/155121673.html
- The idea of an pejorative in the name is supported in this site: http://www.imdb.com/name/nm1391270/bio, where the Rasputin is said to derive from "ill-behaved" or "ill-aimed." There, however, the "Rasputin" itself is retained as the actual surname. The father of Rasputin is named as Efem Yakovlovich Rasputin.
- Will a Russian national please verify the Raspitnik reference meaning? If it is indeed a childhood nickname suggesting precocious, even scary-power impiness, later meanings such as the debauched one are inapt.and inept for a child. *
- Clues: May be in records of Tyumen Oblast, the district for Pokorovskoye, Rasputin's birthplace. A forum's comments includes ideas of many people sharing the surname, Rasputin (is that because many were there as punishment for a crime of some sort alleged, so many would be considered "ill-behaved"? Like a new name being given at Ellis Island? Many archives are now available, see Boris Yeltsen Presidential Library at http://www.prlib.ru/en-us/events/Pages/Item.aspx?itemid=1061 and, for life there at the time, at http://www.prlib.ru/en-us/Lib/pages/collection.aspx?collectionid=59
- Apparently Rasputin himself petitioned the Tsar for a name change to Rasputin-Novy or Novykh, or Novyu, or Novikch (at Alexei's request? just somebody's claim, scroll at alexanderpalace)because of all the other Rasputins? See forum and vet. Where is a copy of that actual and source-verified petition? For someone who could read it? Go back to alexanderpalace site and scroll.
- I do see reference to a different spelling, Rasputnik. Do a search. Rasput as "off the true way", see http://forum.alexanderpalace.org/index.php?topic=16720.0, scroll down.
- That brings to mind Sputnik.
- Sputnik apparently means a traveling companion in life, with various innuendoes, see Russian Language Blog
- Would Sputnik then be the illegitimate child of Rasputnik? Enjoy.
Update: Read Rasputin: Faith, Power, and the Twilight of the Romanovs, by Douglas Smith 2016 for an in-depth review of documentation: Acknowledgements, Bibliography and Notes extend pp.681-788, then comes the Index pp.789-817.
Photographs: in two large, glossy sections about 1/3 and 2/3 through. Such detail, and a readable, thoughtful text. Chronology and early years (acknowledgement that his first 30 years are largely a blank) are particularly helpful, as omitted elsewhere while spin put in. Origins of the name Rasputin: pp.13-14, obscure and varied linguistically, words like it mean crossroads and related ideas, or the wet spring season, but nothing to do with character or deeds. Many Siberians bear that surname. He changed his own name to Rasputin-Novy pp.80-81.
For a fast summary of his life, read down the Index entry itself, pp.806-809. I read the book backwards: Last chapter, then the one before, and so on. Filled in gaps in a retainable way. Chronology from the beginning became tangled. Enjoy. There also is reference to the naming custom, for abbreviating the name of a father as to an illegitimate child, that supports the tale of Putin, an odd name in Russian, being in a line of an illegitimate son of Rasputin, take off the Ras, get Putin, and pass the salt?